I drove to the LDS Family History Center in Oakland. I could not find a "Prillish" in Germany. There were two German villages named Hilter. The Hilter nearer Hannover and close to the village
Georgs Marien Huette where
Fredrich Froeschner was married seemed the most likely.
, and has a population of about 2,600.
THREE EARLIER GENERATIONS IN PRITTISCH: Most often, I learned that turning off exact spelling on and LDS family search worked
best. Donna James left the "exact spelling" turned on and discovered in the IGI three generations of Froeschners in Prittish before the Gottfried I had
found. Since then I have found the actual records. For several generations, then, Froeschners lived the small village of Prittisch, Posen, Prussia (Germany). Georg Froeschner and Catharina
Stuerm, were married in Prittisch on 5 Nov 1743, and are now the earliest known. I must admit that the early records were so difficult to read that I
would never have found them without having some dates to start with.
GOTTFRIED FROESCHNER'S OCCUPATION:David Cole who reads German well read Gottfried and Amalie's marriage record and discovered that
Gottfried Froeschner of Prittisch and father of
Theophil and Friedrich was an Eigenthuemer, a
proprietor. Gottfried must have owned some kind of property to have that designation on his marriage record. Since Fred was the oldest son, he seemed most likely to inherit. This makes the two sons
leaving Prittisch even more puzzling.
THE FIRST THEOPHIL'S DEATH CERTIFICATE LEADS TO ZION CEMETERY: A copy of Albert Herman Theophil Froeschner's death certificate was
found in the main library in St. Louis. This confirmed that his death was due to the injury as described in family stories. The certificate also listed
his address which was in what is now downtown St. Louis and that he was buried in Zion Cemetery. Immediately we looked on a current map for "Zion" in the
downtown area near where his house would have been. We found no Zion Cemetery. A few years later when visiting a sister, I saw a Zion Cemetery on St.
Charles Rock Road out in a St. Louis suburb. We drove in and , next to the road, I saw a stone with the name of Louise Alsmeyer, who was the sister of Theophil's wife
Wilhelmina. This certainly looked promising. The sexton helped us find the information on the lot owned by Wilhelmina Kallmeyer Froeschner Hansen. Theophil had
originally been buried in the Friedrich Kallmeyer lot just as Louise Alsmeyer, her husband, two Kallmeyer men and what appeared to be a Kallmeyer couple
named William and Wilhelmina Kallmeyer. The couple were of lifetimes that made
them possible parents of the Kallmeyer girls including Louise, Wilhelmina, Charlotte, and Ricka - and maybe the young men too. (They were.) In
Wilhelmina Kallmeyer Froeschner Hansen's lot, Wilhelmina herself, her first husband Theophil, her
second husband and his father, her son and his cousin who died when falling through the ice on a Boy Scout trip were all buried.
ANCESTORS OF FREIDRICH FROESCHNER'S WIFE: The marriage of Carolina "Lena" Meyer Froeschner's parents Friedrich Wilhelm Meyer and
Wilhelmina Louisa Ludtman and the births of their children in Dissen am Teutoberger Wald, Germany, are reported. Another cross-over in German places
was also discovered. Wilhelmina Louisa Ludtman, Carolina "Lena" Meyer Froeschner's mother, was born on the farm called Natrup, between Dissen and Hilter,
15 years before Wilhelmina Kallmeier's father William/Wilhelm Kallmeier was born on the same farm. David Cole reported that Lena's mother Wilhelmina
Louisa Ludtman Meyer, a son and/or grandson and possibly a brother came to St. Louis. Wilhelmina Meyer ran a meat market in St. Louis. I have yet to find
evidence of her being in St. Louis.
GOTTFRIED FROESCHNER'S FIRST WIFE: Gottfried Froeschner, father of immigrants Theophil and Fred
Froeschner, had an earlier marriage before he married Theophil and
Fred's mother Florentine Amalie Warnest. Gottfried was 40 and Florentine was only 20 when they were married, and I always wondered why there was such
a difference in their ages. The answer is that Gottfried had an earlier wife: Erdmine Carol. Schlinke. So far I have found only two daughters
for the prior marriage. One of the daughters died in early childhood. The marriage record itself is in that time period which is not currently
available on LDS microfilm or online. My current speculation is that there was an older son by this marriage that would inherit whatever property Gottfried had.
And that may been one of he reasons that both son Fred and Theophil emigrated to Kingdom of Hannover and on to St. Louis.
MARRIAGE OF GOTTFRIED'S DAUGHTER IN GEORGS MARIEN HUETTE: On 15 and 22 October 1871 banns were listed the Prittisch church
records for the marriage of Auguste Lydia
Froeschner in Georgs Marien Huette, Kingdom of Hannover to Johann Gottfried Paul Weber who was living in Hagen, a village near to where they were married.
This marriage is the
earliest connection for Froeschners from the village of Prittish in Posen to the west in the Kingdom of Hannover, just south of Osnabrueck. Gottffried's son
Friedrich, who later immigrated to St. Louis with his family, was married in Georgs Marien Huette in 1875. Son Theophil, who later immigrated to
St. Louis with his wife and child, was married in nearby Hilter in 1888.
This Weber-Froeschner marriage record had several other interesting details. It noted that Gottfried had died by the time of this marriage, closing
his death date to between 1858-1859 and 1871. Gottfried's occupation was listed as a bauer, not eigenthuermer. This leads to the question: had he lost his
property by this time? Gottfried's wife Florentine Amalie Warnest Froeschner was married to Carl Sauer at this time.
SECOND HUSBAND FOR FLORENTINE WARNEST FROESCHNER: The paragraph in the marriage record for Auguste Lydia Froeschner described
above confirmed that the Florentine Warnest having children with and Carl Sauer in Prittisch had been Gottfried's second wife. The actual marriage record
for Carl Sauer and Florentine Warnest was not yet been found when I found the births. However, records for three children born between 1864 and 1867 have
been found. The first two of these three children died quite young.
Because of all the microfilm scanning I have done, I can quickly locate the appropriate column and scan birth and death records for names. The marriage
records in Prittisch name the people in a complete paragraph and are not so easy to scan. To determine whether I has missed the marriage record for
Florentine Warnest and Carl Sauer, I clicked back on the online Prittish records from FamilySearch.org. The site did not load! So I went back to the old
version of familysearch, relocated the link, and this new one did work. Carefully reading the marriage paragraphs from 1858-1864 still showed no marriage.
And no death for Gottfried Froeschner either. Then I decided to search use the new FamilySearch option to find indexed Prittisch records for Froeschner.
Not only did the marriage come up, but so did
Gottfried's death, and two more Froeschner families in Prittisch. (See below.) This marriage entry showed the widow Florentine Amalie Warnest Froeschner
married Carl Ludwig Hermann Sauer on 31 May 1861, in Prittisch. Carl Sauer was listed as Katholische/Catholic. This index implied that the Warnests and Froeschners may have
moved from one religion and church to another. (See Current Mysteries below for details and questions.)
GOTTFRIED FROESCHNER'S DEATH: The earliest indication of his death was that he was deceased when his son Theophil was
married in 1888. Later discovered information showed that he died between 1858-1859 when his last son Theophil was born and 1871 when his daughter Auguste's
marriage record indicated that he had already died. The birth of a child to his widowed wife Florentine Amalie Warnest and her new husband Carl Sauer
in 1864 suggests that he had died by this time. FamilySearch.org now gives an actual date of death, but I have not yet found the church record.
Gottfried's wife Florentine was more than eight months pregnant,
running a household of several of her and Gottfried's children. The soon-to-be married daughter of Gottfried's first wife may have also been living with
them. Her husband became ill or was injured. Then he died.
Gottfried died on 10 April 1859. This is the beginning of a most poignant story. His death was almost a month before his last son Theophil
was born. The
baby wass born on 7 May 1859, was christened Albert Hermann Theophil Froeschner, and went by the name Theophil. Theophil grew up, was reported by a family
story to have
been a feldwebel/sargeant in the Prussian
the army, moved to the Osnabrueck area in the Kingdom of Hannover, became a sheet metal worker, met and married the woman known as Wilhelmine
Kallmeyer in Hilter, became father to their first son who was
Theophil, and immigrated with wife and child to St. Louis, Missouri, in the United States. The baby Theophil was just
over a year old. The father Theophil became a tinner, a sheet metal worker, for the Charter Stove Factory.
Theophil and his wife Wilhelmina had three more children in St. Louis: Fred or Fritz, Minnie, and Lottie.
After a longer gap than usual, four years,
Wilhelmine was pregnant again. Working as a tinner on a project making griffins for 1904 Worlds Fair in St. Louis.
(Bronze griffins on the top of the St. Louis Art Museum, one of two remaining builidings
from the World's Fair, are reported to be his work.) The metals and the
materials used to work it were dangerous. Theophil got blood poisoning from his cut. Wilhelmine was over eight months pregnant and caring for her ill
husband and four children. Their last baby was born on 20 February 1904, christened the same name as his father was christened,
Albert Herman Theophil. The new baby was called Albert as his oldest brother who immigrated as a baby was
already called Theophil. Two weeks later, on 5 March 1904, husband and
father Theophil died from his injuries at home in downtown St. Louis and was buried at Zion Cemetery which is out on the very edge of St. Louis.
Mother Wilhelmine took her growing children on a bus out to the cemetery to visit his grave. In a few years Wilhelmine married Harry Hansen and they
had two sons who died as youths.
On 22 February 1918 Wilhelmine and Theophil's son Albert Froeschner and his first cousin Fred Froeschner, son of Fred and Frederike Froescher
(Tanta Ricka), fell through ice on a frozen pond
on a Salvador Church Boy Scout hike and drowned. They were both buried on 23 Feb 1918 in Zion Cemetery, St. Louis, Missouri, in the plot owned by Albert's
mother Wilhelmine Kallmeier Froeschner Hansen.
FOUR FROESCHNER FAMILIES IN PRITTISCH: A couple of years ago I started reading the early church records for Prittisch
and found a whole family for a Samuel Froeschner and Charlotte Heinz who were of the same generation as Gottfried, father
of our Theophil and Friedrich. I could not find the birth or marriage of a Samuel in either the IGI or in the new online Prittisch records. Thus I have
not determined whether he is Gottried's brother and son of Christian Froeschner and Dorothea Elizabeth Sauer or part of some other
Another discovery when scanning the Prittish microfilm was a marriage and family of a Gottlieb Froeschner and Maria
Elizabeth Giebel. I did find their marriage in 1809. This Gottlieb would have to close to two generations before our Gottfried Froeschner. He might
be a very late son of our Gottfried's grandfather Gottfried Froeschner and his wife Mary Elizabeth or part of some other
Froeschner family line.
Two other families appear to be headed by sons of Christian Froeschner and Caroline Heinze. One family is listed in the index as
Johann (Samuel) Froeschner and appears to be their son Johann Samuel Froeschner
. The other family is listed as Wilhelm Froeschner and appears to be their son
Friedrich Wilhelm Froeschner.
SHIP FOR FRIEDRICH FROESCHNER AND FAMILY: Donna James who is one of the hostesses for the Froeschner Reunion has discovered
the ship on which Friedrich Froeschner and his family immigrated. I had been looking for it for years, by trying various spellings of the surname:
Froeschner, Froschner, Freschner, Freshner.
Donna found their ship's record was indexed under "Friede Troschner". There is no mistaking his family, wife Lena, and children Emma, Friedrich,
Theodor, Paul, Heinr., and Helene. The names are the same as I have with the addition of Helene, age 1 month, who must have been one of their children who
died young. Friedrich's given name looks like "Friedr" to me, and both the "F" and "T" in his name are in a cursive style where the
letters are quite similar. Friedrich and family were on the Karlsruhe, leaving Bremerhaven, Germany, and listed in the Port of New York on
6 May 1891, with notes from Baltimore, Maryland. They were in Compartment VI with other families, and their destination was Missouri.
The other surprise connection was that the Karlsruhe was the same ship on which Charlotte Kallmeier, age 18, all alone, immigrated
in May 1891. Charlotte Kallmeier was the sister of Wilhelmina Kallmeyer Froeschner, wife of Friedrich's brother Theophil. Wilhelmina and Theophil
Froeschner are "our" direct line ancestors. I had found Charlotte Kallmeier's immigration five years ago and always wondered why she, as a young woman,
in that time period was able to travel alone. I had scanned the ship's list for the brother Friedrich whose immigration had not been found, but did not
find him on the same ship. (Friedrich died on 19 Sep 1891, only a few months after the Karlsruhe brought Charlotte and Friedrich and family.)Now we know that Charlotte traveled on the same ship as Friedrich Froeschner and family. Charlotte was in Compartment VII with others traveling alone. Her intended destination
was also Missouri.
VISIT TO PRITTISCH: My husband Ken and I visited the village where Froeschner's had lived since the early 1700's. They may have lived there earlier as well, but the church records are nearly impossible to read. Many German settlers came to reclaim land by removing water from the swamps around the Warte River where Prittisch was located. (There must have been frogs there!) See Neumark. The Church records were all in German. The earliest Evangelisch/Evangelical church records on microfilm at the LDS library was in 1611 when the village was called Prittisch. This is the church our Froeschners attended. There were also Katholic/Catholic records from the same early times.
We were very fortunate to have Magda Smolka as our guide to Prittisch. She spoke Polish, German, and English! The villagers all spoke Polish which we did not. The three of us had a traditional lunch in a restaurant that also sold pizza. When we visited the records office, we found that there were no current Froeschners in the village. We bought postcards at the small store that I had seen as the first and only website when I searched under the village's current name Przytoczna. In the open space in front of the store and just across the street from the post office was a large wooden carving of our iconic frog.
We did locate the where the old wooden church in which Gottfried Froeschner and Florentine Warnest were married and their first children, including Friedrich, were christened. The church no longer existed, but we talked to the man who currently owned the property and brought home a votive candle holder he had dug up on the church site. We also visited the Culture Center/Library that was housed in what was the "newer" brick church where Albert Herman Theophil, the last son of Gottfried and Florentine Froeschner was christened. The cemetery for what had been brick church was across the street. No stones remained, but the area had been made into a grassy park with more large carved wooden statues. The statues were also in various places around town. We also visited a gracious couple who invited us into there home and told stories of the village. The husband was on the town council and was instrumental in saving the cemetery instead of turning it into a theater. At the end of the day, we drove to the tiny village were Florentine Warnest lived when she married Gottfried Froeschner. It was called Marienwald ("Mary's Wood") then and had about 20 houses. It is now calld Gaj and has only two houses, but we were directed to an old abandoned cemetery for the village. We also learned that tiny villages like Marienwald had a prayer houses where people ordinarily attended services. For important events like marriage or christening or holiday celebrations they went in to the church in Prittisch. That certainly explains why all of the important Froeschner events were recorded in the church/kirche in Prittish and listed the names of the villages where the people resided.
The bottom line is that at the end of World War II, the village was on the main road and telecommunications line between the German capital Berlin and Warsaw which was the capital of Poland. The Russians were coming! The Germans living in the village had heard what the Russians were doing and left for Germany. We were told that perhaps five people of German descent stayed. By that time in the War the Russians and Germans were leveling, blowing up anything big enough for a person to hide behind. 70% to 90% of the village was destroyed. A few houses that had dates on them of about 1907 survived. The last evidence we found for Froeschners in Prittisch was a website that listed the surname Froeschner as a bauer/farmer in 1940.
More Details and Photos of our Prittisch/Przytoczna Visit
SPECIAL THANKS TO: Theophil Frank Albert Froeschner and Shirley Helen Ogier Froeschner, for their early conversations about
their ancestors and our real treasure the Picture Book of Froeschner Ancestors with exact dates for each ancestor,
Gayle Schfluetzel who shared her inspiring research, to Herbert Froeschner who sent an extraction of his father's christening record which
lead to Hilter, to Paul Froeschner for his beautiful letters about family history and a copy of the extraction of the marriage record of Friedrich
and Carolyn Meyer which lead to Malbergen and Georgs-Marien-Huette and the village Prittisch in Posen which was mistranslated as "Prillisch"
(which does not exist), to Standesbamte Krake in Hilter who helped us obtain marriage and birth records which lead to the village of Prittisch
(which does exist), to David Cole who shared his family history, helped with German translation, and collaborated on interpreting the information
about Friedrich Froeschner's wife's Meyer line in Dissen, Germany, that I had found when researching our Rocklage line, and then went to Dissen, and to
Donna James who discovered the three prior generations of Froeschners in the IGI using "exact spelling"!!!, sent a picture of immigrant
Albert Herman Theophil Froeschner (the only picture missing from the Picture Book of Froeschner Ancestors and sought for many years), got a copy
of New York port record for the ship on which the Theophil Froeschner family traveled to the US, and has shared much impressive research on the entire
family, especially those in St. Louis, and was smart enough to talk to her mother, and to Donna's mother Laverne Klaus Buchardt, who passed on
family knowledge and helped with the research, to Marianne Froeschner who sent the picture of Carolina Froeschner and snapshot of Tanna Ricka
and Fred H. Froeschner, to Lou and Jackie Froeschner who recently shared the large photos of the first Theophil Froeschner and of Wilhelmina
Froeschner Hansen and her husband that Lou found in the rafters of the basement after his father's house had been cleared out, and to Magda Smolka who made our visit to "Prittisch" work out so well.
CURRENT MYSTERIES: Solving mysteries is what genealogy is all about.
Why are the ships on which the Froeschners
and Kallmeyers came to the US on the Baltimore Passenger List, but documented as arriving at the Port of New York? (Did they arrive in New York and the
documentation was kept at an office in Baltimore? Or did they officially arrive in New York and then stay on the ship to go on to Baltimore?)
Why did Theophil and Friedrich Froeschner and their sister August Lydia Froeschner and her new husband
Johann Gottfried Paul Weber leave Prittisch and go to the Osnabrueck area?
When did Gottfried Froeschner and his wife Florentine Amalie Warnest die? At this point, I have a death date for Gottfried Froeschner. The
date I started with for Florentine Amalie Warnest Froeschner was "before 1888" because both Gottfried and his wife Florentine were listed as being deceased
on the marriage of their son Theophil Froeschner to Wilhelmina Kallmeyer in Hilter. Now I know that Florentine died sometime after 1867 when she was having
children with Carl Sauer following Gottfried's death. Civil registration in Germany started in 1874, so the 1874-1888 is now the expected time period for
Did Gottfried Froeschner lose the property he had at his marriage to Florentine Warnest in 1845? If so, why? In 1871 Gottfried was listed simply as a bauer/farmer in
his daughter's marriage record. This record was written after his death in 1859.
Why are there mistakes in the LDS FamilySearch index for Froeschner and Warnest records in the 1800's, and how do we get them corrected?These are the details from this index. Gottfried Froeschner and Florentine
Amalie Warnest's marriage is listed as a christening, which is definitely a mistake. Their religion is listed as Evangelische/Evangelical. This religion is
what I expected as that was what was listed when I
ordered the microfilm that had the marriage record and the births of their first children. The religion that was listed in this index for the birth of
their children I found on the same microfilm as their marriage was
Katholische/Catholic in the index. The religion for the birth of Albert Hermann Theophil
Froeschner which I found on a different microfilm from their marriage and other children was listed as Evangelische/Evangelical. The religion for the births of Gottfried's children with his first wife was
Which of Friedrich Froeschner's descendants obtained the extraction of his parents' marriage record?
What are the ship, ports, and dates of the
immigration of Friedrich Froeschner and family in about 1890? (Question answered, see above.)
Are birth/christening records available for Friedrich and Caroline Froeschner's children born in Germany? How about regisrations for
the children of Lydia Auguste Froeschner and Johann Gottfried Paul Weber? Civil registration began in 1874 in Germany, and we did obtain photocopies
of registrations in Hilter. How can we obtain those records without going to Germany?
Did Froeschners go to Australia and are they still there? A "Gottfied Freschner", age 36, of Prittisch, and his wife and two children were listed
with permission to go to Australia
in 1836. First an internet phone search for various spellings of the name showed no such surnames. This latest version of the permissions shows the
Gottfried as 36, not 86 as an earlier version did. Age 36 suggests that this was the Gottfried Froeschner married to his first wife Erdmine Schlinke and
children. We know he did not leave Prittisch.
Did Warnests go to Australia and are they still there? Both a "Johann Wornest", age 67, and family with seven children and a "Gottfried Wornest", age 63 and family, all
of Prittisch were listed with permission to go
to Australia in 1836. Apparently, at least some of Johann's family did. A reconstructed passenger list for a ship Catherina and a family history page shows a Johann Warnest
of Prittisch, his wife Anna and four children. The age of the mother was listed as 60 and the youngest son are 10 on a family history site. This makes her being mother to a ten year
old unbelievable. Must be a grandmother.
Was Florentine Amalie Warnest, age 15, a
daughter of the the Johann Warnest who had permission to go Australia? She obviously did not go.
If she was the daughter, why as a unmarried 16 year old did she stay behind? Again, the age of the mother Anna at 47 when Florentine was born is unbelievable. Could this
mother Anna have been married to Johann after his younger wife had died?
Who was the unknown George Froeschner and daughter in St. Louis in 1900? George was born in February 1825, immigrated in 1849. The daughter Lena was
born in Baltimore in June 1867 and was a teacher. The 1870 Maryland Census indicates a Wuerttemberg birthplace.
Who put the early Froeschner records in the IGI that lead to George Froeschner and his wife Catherina Stuerm of Prittisch in the Prittisch?
Are there Froeschners in Prittisch before those listed here? I am now
slowly searching the nearly illegible Prittisch films for confirmation of the IGI entry and anything else that shows up and also some Prittisch records
that now appear online.
What information is available about the mother Wilhelmina Louisa Ludtman Meyer in St. Louis? She was reported to have run a meat market in
in St. Louis, but I have not found her in any census. Some Missouri death records are online, but I have not found her there either.
What is the meaning of ÿ, that looks like a y with an umlaut or dot or
appostrophe, in Meÿer and Kallmeÿer in some church records? It apprears that this letter was actually "ij". So the names were spelled Meijer and Kallmeijer for a
while. Amazing. I thought that the spelling of comtemporaneous spelling of "Kallmeyer" and "Kallmeier" was unusual.
Who was the Maria Froeschner, age 21,
who left Breman and Southampton and arrived in New York on 28 March 1865 on the ship "Union"? Ar first I thought she was the long lost sister of
Friedrich and Theophil Froeschner, but the Froeschner woman who had the given name of Maria was married. Who was her husband and were they from Prittisch as well?
Please contact me by email: Jeanette@Martin-Froeschner.net